The complete description of a new and unique system for exploring space.
Question and Answers
with
Kumaran and Grant

Kumaran
I heard that zero point and antigravity technology will be created in 2012. This is according to a theory by a scientist called Kondatrieff.
To The Stars
Zero Point Energy Emerges From Realm of Science Fiction
May Be Key to Deep Space Travel
Grant
Thanks for the article, it is quite good.
I have discussed this type of free energy on my site, but I just did not
use the term zero point energy.
Zero Point energy or vacuum energy or vacuum fluctuation energy is
extremely important to space travel. Townsend Brown's battery taps this
energy!! It is easy to understand this principle. All you need to think of
this. There is light everywhere in the Universe, correct? the light from
all the stars shines on all points in the Universe. Every single point in
the Universe, has all the light from everywhere else in the Universe,
passing through it. every point in the Universe has energy in it. That
energy is what defines what exists at that point in space. Mass or
otherwise.
Sound is a mechanical vibration in the air, which we hear as sound. So sound cannot travel through a vacuum because there is no air, its a vacuum. However,
mechanical vibrations can and do travel through a vacuum. These are not sound
waves or vibrations in air, these are mechanical waves or inertial waves or
gravity waves vibrating the vacuum. Even a point in so called empty space
or vacuum can still have waves of electromagnetic energy traveling through it, even though there is no electrons or matter to convey the energy. Likewise gravity and inertia can be transmittes through vacuum, even though there is no mass to convey the mechanical energy.
Understanding the electromagnetodynamic nature of space is understanding of
zero point energy and understanding of motion in its purest form. So zero
point energy is important to space propulsion. The solution to tapping the zero point energy depends on understanding how movement and
mechanical force are transmitted through empty space.
Scientists are puzzled by what they call action at a distance. How can the
gravity of the moon effect the Earth when they are not touching? But the
solution is they are touching. There is space/time between the moon and earth is there not? The
Earth and Moon themselves are likewise made up of space/time. Everything is
made of the space/time, so it all has to be touching, because its all the same
stuff. In exactly the same way the water in the ocean is all touching. The energy of a wave can
travel from one country to another country across the ocean, even though
those countries are not touching. We say the gravity or light can
travelling through empty space or the vacuum, this is because even empty space or a
vacuum is still made of space/time. There is an ocean of space/time between the Earth and the Moon, an ocean of gravity and electromagnetic waves.
Light and gravity are waves in space/time. Space/time is the ocean
of the Universe, and like any ocean, there is a huge amount of energy in the
waves and tides. This is the zero point energy everyone is talking about.
Kumaran
Have you seen this guy called Luke Fortune with his UFO how to website. He
is selling books which tell you how to build UFOs based on expired patents
over the last 100years. I am thinking of buying some of his books. Website
is:
http://www.ufohowto.com
He says a UFO factory could be built for under
$100,000. He says to build a small craft could cost less than $2,000. He
says a I am hoping to one day build one of those craft and travel to the
stars. I always believe in multiple options. Maybe I will win a lottery and
set up a research base and build craft.
Grant
I have seen this website. A great collection of propulsion patents. But not even close to a complete reference! It does cover much of the relevant material. Here is a more complete list:
Complete List of Electric or Magnetic Space Propulsion Systems
- Electrothermal Thrusters
- Resistojet
- DC Arcjet
- AC Arcjet
- Magnetically Diffused & Magnetically Focused Arcjet
- E-Type KHz AC Electrodeless Gas Discharge Thruster
- H-Type KHz AC Electrodeless Gas Discharge Thruster
- Microwave Gas Discharge Thermal thruster (also called Microwave
Electrothermal Thruster)
- Waveguide Thruster
- Resonant Cavity Coaxial Thruster
- Pulsed Microwave Electrothermal Thruster
- Supersonically Heated Microwave Electrothermal Thruster
- Laser Gas Discharge Thermal thruster
- Cyclotron Resonance Microwave Accelerators
- Electron Cyclotron Resonance (ECR) Thruster
- Ion Cyclotron Resonance (ICR) Thruster
- Whistler-wave Electron Cyclotron Resonance Heater (ECRH) Thruster
- Electrostatic Thrusters
- Surface Contact Ion Thruster
- Tungsten plate
- Tungsten Wire
- Porous Tungsten
- Electron Bombardment Thruster
- Magnetron Gaseous Discharge
- Filament Cathode
- Autocathode
- Oscillating Electron
- von Ardenne Low Pressure Duoplasmatron Arc Thruster
- Colloidal/Macromolecular Electrostatic Accelerators
- Atomizer Spray Charging of Dielectric Fluids
- Colloidal Condensation from Supersaturated Vapor
- via Supersonic Nozzle Geometry
- with ionization by Electron Bombardment
- with ionization by Corona Discharge
- via Condensation Shock Wave
- with ionization by Electron Bombardment
- with ionization by Corona Discharge
- Ion nucleation of Pre-ionized Supersaturated Vapor Stream
- Surface Condensation of Supersaturated Vapor with perpendicular
E-field Ionization
- Acceleration of pre-formed particles
- via Vaporization of a Solid (C60 Propulsion)
- via Mechanical Breakdown of a Solid
- via Liquid Chemical Reaction
- via Gaseous Chemical Reaction
- Electromagnetic
- Steady State Electromagnetic Thruster
- External B-Field
- External Ionization Source
- Rectangular Channel Thruster
- Coaxial Channel Thruster
- Constant Cross-section Thruster
- Variable Cross-section Thruster
- Internal Ionization Source
- Self-Induced B-Field
- Internal Ionization Source
- Rectangular Channel Thruster
- Coaxial Channel Thruster
- Constant Cross-section Thruster
- Variable Cross-section Thruster
- MPD (Magnetoplasmadynamic) Arc Thruster (also called Thermionic
Accelerator and High Impulse Arcjet)
- Pulsed Plasma Thruster (Self-Induced B-Field)
- Direct Contact Electrode Discharge Thruster (Usually called
"Pulsed Plasma Accelerators")
- Hybrid Coaxial Pinch Thruster
- Linear Pinch Thruster
- Coaxial Plasma "Gun"
- Parallel Rail Accelerator Gun
- "Button Gun"
- "T-Tube" Plasma Accelerator
- Solid Ablation Thruster
- Hydrodynamic Plasma Gun (developed for
thermonuclear fusion experiments)
- Inductive Discharge Thruster(Usually called "Induction
Accelerators")
- Theta Pinch Thruster
- Conical Pinch Thruster
- Loop induction Thruster
- Pulsed Inductive Thruster
- Traveling Wave Accelerator
- Rectangular Channel Traveling Wave Thruster
- Cylindrical Channel Traveling Wave Thruster
- Cylindrical Duct Coil-driven Traveling Wave Accelerator
- Cylindrical Duct Helical Transmission Line Accelerator
- Coaxial Channel Traveling Wave Thruster
- Constant Cross-section Traveling Wave Thruster
- Variable Cross-section Traveling Wave Thruster
- Conical Duct Coil-driven Traveling Wave Accelerator
- RF Fringe Field Accelerator
- Glow Discharge Magnetic Expansion Thruster
- Rail Gun
- Hall Accelerator
- Magnetoplasmadynamic Thruster
I do have a registered company. The idea of starting a company is not new to me, but it just never seemed to go anywhere. I just do not beleive there are people who would invest in my ideas. Usually investors require ownership of the idea. You cannot patent this idea. It would be like trying to patent relativity, or quantum mechanics, or Newtons theories of motion. You just cannot patent it. To me patents limit and suppress technology.
How many great ideas have been patented, only to go nowhere? How many scientists before have tried to use these ideas in a company to make money, and then failed. Tesla and Brown died poor. There has to be another way. I have enough intelligence to know that a company which secrets its ideas, is not the way to go in this case. Who will invest in a company, whose motive is free information??
I don't know maybe there is a combination of two things that will work for me.
The idea that appeals to me the most is a kind of space exploration commune. A community of people living and working together to develop some practical applications of the Unified field theory. Applying all aspects of the theory into their lives, not just the propulsion aspect. We need to grow in our understanding of ourselves, before we will ever successfully explore deep space. I am afraid people just are not ready for interstellar travel right now. We need a new school or program to teach people, especially children, what is really important in life. It isn't money. People need to be taught about the forces which govern their lives, so they may live in harmony with these forces.
You must see how I believe the sale of knowledge and understanding to be fundamentally wrong? Controling knowledge is power. If a country controls the education system of its people, it controls those people. They are taught, what is decided by the country, should be taught. It is always about money, to get education, so you are allowed to have a better job. The tickets, certificates, degrees, diplomas do not indicate your level of knowledge and understanding. They indicate you learned what someone else wanted you to learn, to allow you to do something you may have already been extremely competent in. It was controlled learning. The universities would have you believe to really understand the Universe, you would need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, getting enough degrees, that you would know everything. Let me tell you this, you could take every scientific degree in every University in the world, and still not have any idea how the Universe really works! A child would still have a better understanding.
Kumaran
Have you heard of this interview with a guy called Nassim Haramein. Website is:
http://www.achieveradio.com/vortex-progressive-tech/index.php
You should definitely listen to it. He has written a theory to explain electromagnetic
craft and the ability to travel through hyperspace. He has won an award for his papers. Website is:
http://theresonanceproject.org
Grant
Great Link, thanks! Yes this guy is correct. the animation of the toroid with the spiraling electrical fields is an excellent representation of a simple electromagnetodynamic field. I have been trying to visualize this type of field shape but could never quite see it. Now I see it very clearly. I beleive this is the electromagnetodynamic field configuration of matter. This is the building block of all mass.

The Resonance Project - Dual Torus Animation
Image used with permission of:
http://theresonanceproject.org
Again he uses the words he knows to try and explain, which may not be the best explanation, but he is definitely describing the same idea. He repeats that the solution is simple, and allows a simple explanation which can be applied to everything from the very small to the very large. I have always said the same thing. There is a more simple way to explain things than quantum mechanics.
Quantum mechanics has always been a joke to me. The very name quantum
mechanics suggest they are calculating the mechanical forces at the quantum
level. But quantum theory is based totally on electromagnetic theory and actually never explains the relationship between these electromagnetic fields and the mechanical forces. It is like they proposed the name quantum mechanics entirely to throw people off from actually discovering that there is a relationship between the quantum electromagnetic fields or photons and a mechanical or phononic field. One controls the other. The mechanical fields, are what limit the electromagnetic fields to certain quantum. The mechanical field is the solid or physical or density or size or limiting element of the electromagnetic field. It bottles or contains the electromagnetic energy into a photon or quantum of light.
A photon/phonon of light is only one form of electromagnetodynamic
energy. The simple arrangement of electromagnetodynamic fields in a
photon/phonon can be combined into more complicated fields, like the ones in the animation. One photon is very simple. It only has one occilating electric wave, one occilating magnetic wave and the related occilating mechanical wave. The sizes of each are related to each other. The wave exists for awhile as a photon( electromagnetic energy ) and then this EM energy is converted to mechanical energy as a mechanical waveform. When the mechanical waveform peaks, it then is converted back into electromagnetic energy. Photon -> Phonon -> Photon -> Phonon -> etc etc. This is the most absolute, basic, fundamental principle of motion.
A Quantum? This word comes from Maxwell who proposed the idea of a Quanternium, he said it was 'a little piece of the medium'. He needed the idea of a packet of energy or a photon to explain why atoms always emitted distinct frequencies or spectra. Quantum mechanics is an attempt to predict the emission and absorbtion spectrum of all known elements. When just looking at the electromagnetic emission they can not figure out why it is emitted in a small burst of energy, of a certain size, a quantum.
The problem is they are not considering any mechanical or relativistic or gravitational properties of the atom at that small scale. Einstein himself was always very confident there was a much better explanation than quantum mechanics. Indeed his Unified Field theory is many times more accurate at predicting atomic spectra, although it is not even realized it can do so! Einstein's Unified Theory works and was solved. I am absolutely certain Einstein was forced or chose to keep his full theory secret. There is many who think today that Einstein was on the wrong track and his theory has no solution. He solved it, but for some reason kept it to himself for the all the years after 1927.
The reason quantum mechanics is wrong is because it excludes the mechanical or gravitational component of the photons! Many scientist know this, they are beginning to realize the complexities of quantum mechanics can accurately predict results, but it is not an accurate explanation of what a photon really is. Quantum mechanics does not get much into momentum and inertia and gravity. Relativity does not get much into quantum's of energy. It is like someone removed the connection between quantum and gravity from the unified field, splitting it into two seperate and unrelated ideas. Both came out after 1927.
I will try to explain with an example, but it is a difficult concept to explain. Simple and easy, but so simple it makes it hard to see. Once you understand, you wonder why you didn't see it before.
Example:
Think of standing on the ground and looking at a three sided pyramid ( bottom is side four but on the ground so you cannot see it ). Say each side represents one of the three fields electric, magnetic, and mechanical. No matter where you stand on the ground near the pyramid you can only see two sides of the pyramid! If you just stand still and look at two sides, we will call these the electric and magnetic sides or quantum mechanics.
You can see that these two sides take up space, they are a certain fixed size, each side is a reflection of the other. But why? From this perspective you cannot see why these two sides are this size? The obvious reason is there is a third side.
If you are looking at just the third side, we can call it the mechanical side or gravity or relativity. From this perspective you can see this side takes up space, but again, why is it the size it is? We cannot see the other two sides from this perspective. Again the obvious solution is this side is part of something else, the other two sides.
It is easy to see the relationship when you can see all the sides at once, you see it is a pyramid. Pyramid = Unified field. ( bottom side would be time ) and this example is not how the fields actually exist in space time, just how quantum mechanics and relativity and the unified field theory are conceptually related.
Einstein himself suggested, " the existence of an ordered harmonic mechanical field pattern as well as the quantum electromagnetic pattern." So if you assumed I made up the concept of a mechanical field, you are wrong. I got the concept of a mechanical field straight from Albert Einstein.
Kumaran
What do you think of this guy Mark Tomions design for a hyperspace
spaceship? The guy died recently and the website was offline for some time
but now it is back. I wrote to them when they were offline and they wrote
back saying the website was back and they are continuing research. Website
is:
http://www.stardrivedevice.com/ch11ex.html
Grant
I know of stardrive. I did not know Mr. Tomions had died. I am glad there
are people to continue on his work. I cannot say the same for myself. I
honestly never really got his idea. He understands how the electrical field
can be used to shield the craft and that it is important to starships, but
what about magnetism and gravity??
His understanding of relativity and field physics is just not correct. I
commend him for trying to bring to light a new design, and seeing his
website suggested to me I should do the same. But he needs to make better
reference to existing electric and physics theory. He knows there is
another way, but does not exactly how it works.
You cannot patent electromagnetodynamics, it is everywhere. I did
enquire about a patent, they told me because I already made my idea
public on my website, I cannot patent it anymore. It is already in
the public domain.
Maybe his device works, but it has moving parts so it is not a very
practicle system for deep space proulsion. He is using the
mathematics and formula incorrectly.
I only have one formula on my website, because it is the important
one. The dynamic theory and Einsteins unified field theory are the
mathematical proof for what I am saying. The trigonometry formula is
the solution, but who would beleive that Egyptians knew trigonometry,
because it represents the fundamental forces of the Universe. People
cannot admit a civilization earlier than us, had a better
understanding of the Universe than us. Remember, people want to
beleive the Universe revolves around them.
My problem with stardrive is he is just not referencing existing
theory, although he makes it sound like he is. A patent is not
evidence, and does not allow you to build a device. Where does he
show the basic principle behind his design? He just jumps right into
some fantastically complicated principle, of which he gives no clear
explanation. Where are the references to all the previous art? Where
are the references to all the people who have tried before? How can
you suggest a new propulsion system without referencing the great
minds like Tesla, Brown, Einstein who have shown these systems
actually working? How can you suggest a new propulsion system without
explaing how the concept applies to physics in general? What does his
theory say about the Universe? How does his thoery give you a better
understanding of the Universe? It does none of these things. He
infact makes it more confusing.
I stand behind the great minds of the past, not in front of them. I
find tons of evidence online to support what Tesla, Brown, and
Einstein were saying about space travel. All the math has already
been done by these guys. Most of my website is reference to other
ideas. I show the connections between all these seperate ideas, which
were not my own. Don't just beleive me, learn what Tesla, and Brown,
and Einstein were saying for yourself. I am just one man, and I am
just trying to explain things as best I can, by referencing all the work that has gone before me.
Kumaran
What about shielding from micrometeroids. He says his system will provide shielding from micrometeroids and also from cosmic rays. Will your system have any shielding effect?
I would like to know.
Grant
The field produced by these types of vehicles extends outwards into space around the vehicle. Think of it not so much as a sheild, but as an outwardly pushing force. In order to enter hyperspace, you repel all normal space, which includes anything in that space. So objects and radiation approaching the vehicle, while it is powered up, would tend to be diverted around the field of the vehicle. Just like the field around the Earth, protects us from these same hazards, as the Earth speeds through space. Travelling through space at extremely high speeds, is impossible with out some sort of protection.
A tiny fleck of paint hit one of the windows on the space shuttle. It was moving at about 30,000 km/hr relative to the shuttle and put a huge crater in the window( about 3 cm across, 1 cm deep ). Astronauts risk these impacts, everytime they spacewalk, protected only by tracking data from ground based radar. Kinetic energy of any mass increases exponentially with the velocity.
This is why the Deadaleus and Orion projects are doomed to fail. These craft would be completely disintigrated long before they ever reached another star.
Not to mention as you and he said, cosmic rays. Cosmic rays are deadly to astronauts with even small times of exposure causes cancers.
Cosmic rays may prevent long-haul space travel - New Scientist Article.
Even an electromagnetic sheild will not be adequate protection for cosmic rays. The only known and feasable way to sheild a deep space vehicle from these rays is by simulating our own planets method of protection. Our planet protects us from cosmic rays because it is surrounded by an atmosphere. The atmoshpere is attracted to Earth by gravity. So some means of artificially attracting and maintaining a small atmosphere around the ship would provide excellent protection. Using the Lorentz forces created by rapidilly rotating magnetic fields, it may be possible to do this. Imagine being able to build a large spaceship, in which you could step outside onto its surface, without a spacesuit. Sounds pretty crazy, but this is exactly what is happenning on our planet right now. A true interstellar starship must resemble a planet, in many ways.

Kumaran
Check out this website. It has some cool descriptions of quantum tunneling and higher dimensions.
Website is
http://www.prophetsmanual.com/content/index.cfm?navID=19&itemID=22
Grant
This guy knows something, but he cannot seem to communicate it. He has alot of writing, but it is jumpy, really hard to read and lacks evidence. There are some good ideas, and some truths, but its pretty hard to weed them out of all the other mess.
Fractals: Are mathematical formula which lead to repeating patterns. They are using fractals to try and figure out how forms are repeated, like tree branches, blood vessels, a shore line around a country.
Holography: Is a way to store 3 dimensional information on a 2 dimensional surface. There is likely a relationship between fractal geometry and holography. I beleive we do live in a hologrphic Unviverse. What this means is that each small peice or part of the Universe, contains an image or reflection of the whole Universe. The way I see it, each part of the Universe, behave like a little mini Universe, your mind included.
Quantum tunnelling: Is an effect whereby electrons seem to tunnel through materials. It is related to how electrons can travel so quickly through metals, at almost the speed of light. It comes into effect in small electronics and micro circuitry. On a very small scale quantum
tunneling is very similar to a warp propulsion.
I am not sure if you could apply the mathematics of quantum tunneling to large distances. If you could there is absolutely, positively no way it would enable you to travel 30000 light years in 35 days.
If I were to compare the propulsion system I am thinking of. It would probably still take months to reach the nearby stars, and still take many years to travel thousands of light years. The nearby planets could be reached in days, instead of the current years it takes.

Kumaran
I also believe in the holographic universe theory. It makes sense. So hyperspace travel that is hopping from place to place is not instantaneous. These guys called Unitel Aerospace said that hyperspace travel is virtually instantaneous.
Website is http://unitel-qht.com/uni/.
Grant
Theoretically hyperspace travel is instantaneous. Assuming of course, a perfect propulsion system is used to travel through the hyperspace. Practically, perfection is impossible in any real design. Therefore the travel time would not be perfectly instantaneous, but would be some factor of the efficiency of the propulsion system. even though effeciencies approaching 90% are possible, there would still be time involved, as I pointed out. So virtually instantaneous, or almost instantaneous is a better description.
For comparison a car is only 45% efficient and a jet is about 65% efficient.
The efficiency is the percentage of energy used which actually goes into moving the vehicle. In a car, most people do not realize, only 2% of the energy in the gas actually goes into moving the driver of the car!
Unitel has been around for awhile. I see they have updated their site since I last was on it. Their idea is good, but a little vague on the actual details of the system, and the quantum interaction they propose to use. I like how they are using red,green and blue like I do to represent the triple nature of the Unified field. If they realize the triple nature, then they will produce results. The electromagnetic and hyperspace propulsion systems are very interrelated, not seperate systems,
like they suggest. Not one system for planetary, and one for interplanetary, just different modes or power levels of the same propulsion system. One of these vehicles that I describe, could be made which could start beneath the ocean, rise up out of the water into the air, continue out into space, and on to another planet. Going from many thousands of pounds of pressure per square centimeter in an incredibly dense medium, to a complete vacuum.
Consider what type of propulsion system could do this? His would not.

Kumaran
I totally agree. To build a prototype requires money. I think if you could design a small radio control model of your craft to prove your ideas would be a great idea to promote your technology.
Have you heard about this guy in Denmark called Keshe and the Keshe foundation. He has come up with a design for a mag grav system which is a kind of electromagnetodynamic craft based on a plasma reactor.
His website is
http://www.keshetechnologies.com/home.html
He says he is planning demonstrations of his technology starting next Monday. Check out the
videos and tell me what you think. I wrote to him, and this is the reply he gave about his plans.
In the next few days we will announce the first lift and flight presentation of the system for public. These presentations will be held in one city in each continent over 5 month.
The links
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Keshe 1: intro and gravity
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** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtf5bp76ArE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtf5bp76ArE&NR=1
*Keshe 2: Matters of the Neutrons
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFCYwXi1Vs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFCYwXi1Vs
*Keshe 3: nuclear decay and motion
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvxGiMZwl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvxGiMZwl4
*Keshe 4: the Fusion
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO0v_bMp0eo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO0v_bMp0eo
**Keshe 5 Flight and creation of light **
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUX1DsNjN8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUX1DsNjN8g
Grant
I checked this out. What he says makes sense to me, and is similar to what I beleive. He presents some ideas which have helped me better understand it myself, like the idea of an atom as a plasma. But a plasma is presently defined as a Hot excited gas, so his idea of a
plasma is different. His presentation with the magnets on the board is not entirely acurate, either.
The core of the earth is spinning in the same direction as the Earths surface, but much faster. Not like the center magnet on his board in his first presentation. The center magnet would be spinning into and out of the board, like if it were glued to a plate spinning in the same direction
as the earth. But maybe he is just not saying everything, yet. Earthquake scientists just discovered the core is spining faster than the surface, and that it is solid. My theory suggests the magnetic field of the Earths core is actually rotating in the same direction as the core, and should be rotating faster. The magnetic field around the core is powered or produced as a result of the core. So the rapidly spinning core powers the Earth.
The magnetic field of the core is powered by the high speed rotation occuring deep inside the core. Atoms and the sun are all powered similarly. As space/time collapses, the energy is transfered into rotation. The more energy collapsing, the faster will be the rotation. But...
From a higher perspective, there is actually more energy coming out of the Earth than what is going in, the Earth is slowly getting heavier, and creating matter at its center. Not all matter in the Universe comes from Suns, as is presently thought. It just takes the proper conditions and
enough energy input to make matter. The Earth gets energy from the Sun, the Sun gets energy from the galactic core. This energy is not electromagnetic in nature, it is a kind of mechanical vibration. A vibration in space/time itself.
Space is thought of as being empty. If it were empty it would not exist. In reality everything in our Universe is made of the same stuff, space/time. Even empty space is still made of space/time. Space/time is better thought of as a solid, like a hard rubber block. This is way
more accurate model of how space/time seems to behave then to think of it as empty. Even though it is not how it is taught. Any changes at one point, can instantly effect the whole block. There is something connecting everything together, not empty space between everything.
In the rubber block, think of the block as constantly growing bigger in all directions. But say at some point in the block it is a bit softer. As it expands this soft part must expand faster, so stress is created. So the collapse of anything, or stress in space/time, or gravity, or mass, is
actually a secondary force, or reaction to the action; of the greater force of space/time trying to un-warp, or expand.
This unwarping is antigravity, or the ever expanding power of the Universe. As the Universe expands, gravity and mass are created to try and fill in, any stressed regions. Bigger holes require more mass to fill. Thinking in this way, mass is actually created by the energy of a hole
in space/time. This is inline with some of the Zero Point Energy theories, and Quantum Vacuume theories. They know a tiny region of space/time actually posseses a huge quantity of energy, even if considered empty.
This guy may be telling the truth. But it will be interesting to see how well his presentations go, annd if they even happen. I will learn from his expeiences and see how people deal with his presentations.

Kumaran
Very true. But the only problem is how to change the system.
I found a system suggested by a guy called Jack Costeau who suggests replacing money
altogether.
His website is
http://www.thevenusproject.com/
He suggests replacing it with a resource based system.
Grant
Yes, I like his idea. The problem is getting from here to there.

Kumaran
Yeah true. But maybe one day we will have a world that works like that. It would be great to live in a world where money was not an issue.
Grant
I try to live as if money is not an issue. I always tell people, Money does not make the world go around!
You cannot eat money, money will not keep you warm( unless you burn it ), and you cannot wear
money.
That is what a resource based economy is about. Food, Clothing Shelter. Money should not even play any role in these necessities of life. Education should be free as well. You should be able to learn as much as you want about anything you want for free! Then we would truly see
some genius.
All it takes to rid the world of evil, is to stop using money. enough people would have to commit to a trading system, which gave you the necessities. We really need to focus on local support
and a local community. the community needs to be able to support itself. All people need to know how to farm at the beginning. So you are not dependent on anyone for the necessities of life. The government wants you to have to buy water, food, shelter, clothing all from them at
whatever price they chose. People need to be more self sufficient.
So few people actually know how things really work. We need to educate people with less specialized education, and more general education about all things. Right now a few people are in control of the knowledge, and everyone else just accepts they are too dumb or poor to
understand everything. People need to wake up and unite against those who would control us and hide the truth from us. People want a better world, they just do not know how to get there.
To get there we just need to stand up for ourselves against those who would kill us to control us.

Kumaran
True. A resource based economy would be great. The basic neccesities of life should be free especially education and knowledge. Hopefully the world will change soon. In the meantime we have to learn to survive in the world as it is.
Grant
Most people live under this oppressive veil of darkness, unable to see things for what
they really are. It is hard to break down those barriers, because people are afraid of losing themselves in the process. But they need to be strong and couragous and face their fears. It may seem like some people in the world are crazy, but they might just see things differently.
who is to judge which is right or wrong? Perhaps what we think of as doing right, is actually contributing to the greater evil. Just because the majority of people beleive and follow something, does not make it the correct course of action. People need to really stand up for their rights and
what they know is right and good. We have been desenitized to the violence and wrong doing in the world. We are constantly told violence, fear, war and famine are just part of daily life. This is an outright evil LIE!
We can end all this oppression, and war, and death. I do not need to see endless violence, terror and nightmarish images on the news and in the media. People need to realize they have been misled down an immoral path, taught to accept things, they should not. Made to accept things over the years, their ancentors would have fought to the death over. The way people
live today is contributing to countless deaths all over the world. We are all responsible because we continue to support this system. We could simple stop supporting it. If we all stopped using money for one day, the whole economy would collapse. we have the power to change things. All it takes is the desire to change, the openess to change, and be willing to accept change and new
ideas. Unfortunately we are educated and engrained with fear and hopelessness and thus beleive we can do nothing. We can do ANYTHING!!

Kumaran
Yes very true. The world needs to change. We need a world where everyone lives free and is provided with the basics of life and in a world where all men are equal regardless of race or religion. That is the world I want to live in. A world where science is progressive and new
ideas are tested.
Grant
That is exactly right. Now, like in the past, there is always resistance to change. New ideas are never easily accepted. The world used to be flat and the Sun used to revolve around the Earth. People look back on these things and think how could people have beleived the Earth was flat? If you went too far you could fall off the edge. However, people are no different today. There are many more realizations about our Universe and our place in it, which today may be considered untrue, but will prove to be true. Our beliefs should always be open to change and dynamic, or we are no better than the flat earth beleivers. Everything in the Universe evolves and changes. Our belief systems, sciences and religions should likewise be dynamic and changing. Always representing the advances and ever expanding picture of our world. Learning is a never ending process.

Kumaran
How much for a small tabletop design to test the theory?
Grant
I know this question is important to people, but I hate answering it. There are numerous principles involved and each could be taken as an experiment in its own right. I expect, once these ideas are widely known, some person will figure out a very cheap and simple way to demonstrate the principle. In fact, magnetohydrodynamics has already been proven many times, and this is one of the key principles involved.
By table top design, I assume you mean a small version which could demonstrate some kind of " antigravity " or a propulsive force. This could be done very inexpensively, relative to most experiments today. All the required equipment could be bought off the shelf, for about $10,000 can. The device itself does not exist yet, so it would have to be prototyped. A small model could be built for about $20,000 in materials and machining. These costs would guarantee results. The results would be a small device about 0.5 m cubed of volume, which could levitate in the air, under control, at various heights up to 5m. This device could win an associated prize worth, 1 million.
Another, interesting experiment would be a small chamber in which objects could be suspended against gravity. About 1 meter cubed in volume. This design may be more practical for initial experimentation. The costs would be similar to the above.
On the ovalsite I show a smaller model capable of acheiving orbit.

Small Scale Test Apparatus for Propulsion System
A = Signal/Frequency Generator
B = Primary Control Circuitry/ Safety / Measurement / Initial Signal Amplification
C = Primary Step Up Transformer D = Main Signal Amplification
E = Secondary Step Up Transformer ( 1 MV @ 10 KVA, 10KHz- 100MHz, DC Out )
F = Launch Platform/ Base
G = Small Test Vehicle H = Input Power from Local Grid
J = Operator K = Breakaway Power Supply to Test
Vehicle
Capable of launching small Sputnik style satelite. Single shot and not
recoverable. Test Vehicle does not contain its own power source other
than for guidance.
This device I would estimate to cost about 1-2 million dollars, for the original prototype and launching system. Further launch vehicles could launch 20lbs of payload into orbit for $10,000. But the payload/cost ratio is not proportional. That is 1000lbs could be launched for $15,000 and likely 2000lbs for $20,000. With further development the vehicle could be made completely recoverable, and able to relaunch the same day. There are no expendable components requiring replacementn every launch, other than maintenance replacement. It is much more suitable to traveling in the space environmennt.

Kumaran
How much is the least cost to develop a five man hyperspace craft?
Grant
This is a difficult number to estimate. Manned space flight, of any kind, is a dangerous business. Building these vehicles is one thing, but building them to carry people involves much more. Primarily safety, and research. If enough people were interested and serious enough it could be acheived with similar initial expenditure as any new aerospace design. I am not sure of the total cost to put a man on the moon, but I would estimate it would be less than this. Unlike the current space program, the vehicle are much more efficient and completely reusable. They require far less expensive maintenance, and ground support, they are VerticalTakeoOff and Landing as well as single stage to orbit and back. So these electromagnetodynamic systems are just a much more practicle and inexpensive means of travelling to space.
When you involve hyperspace you involve another whole level of complexity. The effects of extremely powerful electromagnetodynamic fields on the human body would have to be carefully researched. Especially for prolonged periods of time. We would have to learn if there are unknown hazards or dangers associated with this type of travel. Also, some way to navigate. I am just thinking it would probably be easy to send something into hyperspace, but much more difficult to control where it went, or to get it back. Again with research and time, I beleive all these problems could be solved.
I suppose if some rich guy just wanted to build his own personal hyperspace vehicle it could be done. It would still involve many levels of designs and testing. Would still cost alot of money, but not priceless. I am guessing this technology has already been built in many different forms, by either extremely wealthy people or governments. A number? Lets say in todays dollars about 5 billion, to send 5 guys into hyperspace, just to say mars and back in 30 days, safely. The big difference is this ship could resupply and then go back to mars again and again, probably with only a 30 day turn around, if that.
